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Post by Admin on Apr 1, 2015 16:14:17 GMT
While on Spring Break, you will read chapters two, three, and four in Lord of the Flies. After reading chapter four please respond to the following prompt:
Jack compares hunting to war. Do you think that these things are comparable? If they are comparable, how are they similar? If hunting and war are not comparable, why not? Give me at least two paragraphs and two reasons in your response.
Your response is due TUESDAY APRIL 7th by 7:30 AM! The discussion board will lock at 7:30 AM so if you want credit, submit it to me by then!
If posting on the discussion board is a problem for you come see me and we will work it out together.
I will be grading you based on the following criteria:
4 points for two paragraphs
4 points for your response having two reasons
4 points for you response being thoughtful
Total points: 12
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Post by Robert Costello on Apr 6, 2015 12:55:58 GMT
Hunting and war can be comparable. Jack believes that his pig hunt is similar to a soldier in war. p.63 "If only I'd some green!... For hunting. Like in the war-dazzle paint. Like things trying to look like something else-- like moths on a tree trunk." Jack is explaining to Roger that he needs to camouflage himself so that the pigs don't see him. Hunters wear camouflage when hunting wildlife like soldiers do when hunting the enemy in war zones. Jack set himself up as leader of the hunters and general of the soldiers.
p.71"'We need meat.' Jack stood up as he said this, the bloodied knife in his hand. The two boys faced each other. There was the brilliant world of hunting, tactics, fierce exhilaration, skill; and there was the world of longing and baffling common sense." Jack stood as he asserted his leadership role as chief hunter. He recognized Ralph's voice of common sense, but he also saw his own skill as the hunter/warrior. Jack didn't want to build shelters, he wanted to plan out the next foray into the high declivities where the pigs took refuge during the daytime heat.
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Post by Jesse Dietrich on Apr 6, 2015 16:49:46 GMT
Hunting and war are comparable and very similar. Hunting is war only without killing other humans; and war is hunting humans not animals. One way they are the same is that in hunting, you are wearing camo clothing, face paint, and painting your gun trying to blend into the environment staying out of sight of the animal you are hunting. In war you are doing the same but staying out of sight of the enemy until the time to strike.
Another way that they are the same is that in hunting and war stealth is vital. In hunting stealth is vital because it allows for a easier shot on the animal. For example if you were to go running in like a lunatic, you’ll scare the animal away. Same in a wartime situation, if you are trying to hunt a specific group of people any you run in there like a lunatic, the people will pump bullets into you. All in all, hunting is very comparable to war.
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Post by Quinlan Crossley on Apr 6, 2015 19:31:08 GMT
I think hunting and war are comparable because in hunting you kill animals and in war you kill humans. In war you hunt for humans, so it is like hunting because you are hunting down humans instead of animals. I think they are the same because you can use the same weapons for both. War is sometimes more dangerous than hunting. You do mostly the same thing for both war and hunting.
You can use the same tactics in both like camouflage. In lord of the flies jack uses camouflage to go hunting. People use it in war also to hide from enemies. War and hunting are similar in may ways. They are very comparable topics
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Post by Shea Adams on Apr 6, 2015 19:46:33 GMT
I think that they are the same and different at the same time. With hunting it's much easier since you don't have to worry about you being killed, at least not as much in war cause accidents still happen. With war you have to constantly be on guard. You never can be 100% about knowing where your enemy is or where the next shot will come from.
On the other hand they're similar in the way that with both war and hunting you have to be constantly thinking like your enemy or what your hunting. Otherwise you'll never find what your hunting or your enemy. Depending on what country your fighting for war really is hunting except your prey can still return fire. Without thinking like your enemy it will be so much harder with everything from finding their location to deciding the winner of the next battle.
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Post by Joe Guidotto on Apr 6, 2015 20:33:29 GMT
I think war and hunting are very similar. In hunting and in war, your goal is to kill the enemy or the prey. You also have to achieve this goal without yourself being killed.In both hunting and war, you are using a weapon to kill the enemy or prey.
Another way they are similar is using camouflage in both hunting and war so you cant be seen. You also have to be quiet and stealthy in both so you can't be heard.All in all, hunting and war are very comparable and similar.
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Post by Jack Pickar on Apr 7, 2015 0:58:09 GMT
War and Hunting are similar in many ways. In war and in hunting your objective is to eliminate your target. Also in both you must use weapons to fight against the enemy. Both require allot of concentration and focus. As well both require fast thinking and being fearless.
On the other hand they are also very different. The most notable difference is the fact that in war you fight people but in hunting you "fight" animals. Hunting requires focus an patience. When in war you must be constantly on edge and ready. In conclusion hunting and war are both similar and different.
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Post by Andres Penaloza on Apr 7, 2015 1:28:42 GMT
I believe hunting and war are comparable. They have many similarities and little differences. There are many reasons why they are comparable. My first reason is that they both involve killing something living. In hunting your objective is to kill an animal. In war, killing may not be the main objective but killing always happens in order to achieve the main objective. Killing a living being occurs in both hunting and war and is one reason why they are comparable.
Another reason why hunting and war are comparable is they both involve some sort of training. In order to hunt efficiently you have to learn how to handle and use the weapon you are using and learn how to disguise yourself in the woods. In war you must also learn how to handle and use a weapon and in some way try to hide from the enemy in order to gain an advantage over them. Overall hunting and war are comparable.
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Post by Karlee Rapp on Apr 7, 2015 3:10:49 GMT
War and hunting have their comparisons. However, their differences greatly outweigh their similarities.
War is definitely a more serious more serious topic than hunting. In the midst of battle, you, as a soldier, must have the mindset to take the life of another human being. This person whom you are about to kill also has emotions and thoughts just like you. Preforming a kill on a human isn't as easy as it is on an animal. And to think, that this moment is happening from a fight that you didn't even start. Of course, soldiers volunteer knowing about what they are doing. However some have to deal with major psychological issues later. It’s a small price that some must pay.
On the other hand, hunting doesn't deal with the emotional aspect as much as war. Hunting can be seen as a sportier or a fun activity. Most people are fine with animal killing. There are definitely more positive outcomes. Some examples include food on your plate, clothing fashion, or even a decoration. There's no “risking your life” involved in the process of hunting. War just leaves a heavier impact than hunting.
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Post by Kristen Walker on Apr 7, 2015 4:45:05 GMT
When you hunt you're killing animals and when you're fighting in war you're killing people. I personally think that comparing the two is appropriate and has an alarmingly notable message to it. The killing of an animal is seen as less important than that of a person, yet in war a person views the enemy as merely an animal. War has a bigger impact on a persons mental state, killing your own kind is a lot different from hunting as a source of survival for food and etc. You don;'t usually see an animal you are hunting as the enemy. War occurs for a specific purpose.
War and hunting are also similar in the aspects of weaponry and the use of camouflage and materials to hide from the target in order to be successful in your task. Although it is somewhat different to take the life of a person rather than an animal, you are still taking a life. It's debatable whether that is wrong or not but none the less it's sad.
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Post by Hunter Smith on Apr 7, 2015 10:02:37 GMT
I personally think war and hunting are very comparable for the fact that you are killing something that has been deemed "bad". What I mean by this is when in the war the enemy is your goal to get ride of, not someone you are suppose to be friendly with. Hunting is very similar in the way that most animals you hunt for are very dangerous to us humans. We don't usually go around killing things that are nice and friendly because those animals can't or typically don't hurt us.
My next reason on how war and hunting are similar to you are looking for that edge or advantage against them. In war you try to get to know what they are going to do before they do it so you can prepare for it. You would not want them just to come and kill you you want to put up a fight to prove you are better than them. In hunting your advantage could be something like night vision goggles. That makes you able to see them at night very clearly, the animal will probably not be able to see you so clearly.
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